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May 01, 2009

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Fred Magyar

A pleasure to have found your blog, sir. I will be stopping by in the future.

Can't wait to hear more about "The Unfolding Story"

Just the thought makes one almost dare to hope again...

GaryA

I readily identify with your anguish George. I suffer from bouts of Insomnia(not helped by our 18 month old sons sleeping patterns)In which I lie awake for hours pondering on the extinction facing us and I am more convinced than ever that no solution will ever come through the democratic-Capitalist system we are trapped inside,. Democracy is a sacred cow which is a huge part of the problem-not the solution. Lets face facts Democratic legitimacy rests on the assumption that a majority of human beings in whatever social group are autonomous rational beings capable of independant thought and decisions.
There is no evidence in the scientific psychological or anthropological fields to support such an assumption!

The response to that criticism is invariable well whats better- communism? Socialism? Shallow formulaic thinking.... A few years ago in one of my Insomnia bouts I came up with my (admittedly) utopian ideal...which would consist of a selected multi-tiered meritocracy from local to global level
They would be selected by those members of the meritocracy immediately above them, by a combination of psychometric tests and accumulated knowledge/wisdom/practical standards.
At the top global level would sit ‘The Guardians’- guardians of Humanities and the biospheres long term health who would set limits and criteria (constantly updated as scientific findings progress) for each successive downward-chain meritocracy to apply
They would set definite limits to human resource use for each area of the planet –convergence and ratchet downwards to a long term more equitable sustainable and just level for everyone.
The guardians would rise through the ranks from young local activists by merit of dedication talent and demonstrated reverence for all of life.
Of course the colossal problem is how do the sapient and intelligent elite rest control from the 'dictatorship of the stupid' ruining this planet? I confess apart from fantasy-driven scenarios of comitted individuals using herf guns and e-bombs to weaken and take over nodes and leverage points I cant see how realistically it can happen. Also the masses are not going to give up their overstuffed lifestyle without some form of coercion which is alien to our engrained libertarian instincts. Maybe its more moral to let it all collapse and atempt to rebuild from the ashes.
How would an Alien civilisation view us knowing we knew what was wrong, knowing what must be done? Are we condemmed to a kind of postmodern paralysis, the product of an incurable inbuilt moral cowardice?
These are the kind of thoughts I eventualy drift off to sleep struggling over. ...and your right about conscious attention having little to do with our biological existance or deeper imperatives and instincts.....

Dboy

"Zeus and Krishna"

When I think about Republicans, "Zeus and Krishna" are not the two mythological beings that pop into my mind.

George Mobus

Fred,

Thanks. We'll have to see how the story evolves!

GaryA,

It has seemed to me we suffer from several related problems with democracy as our method of governance. These are, ignorance, complexity of issues, and the fact that there are simply too many people in the society to allow the ideal of democracy, even a representative form, to work.

I imagine that in the prehistoric condition of humanity, with small tribes of approximately 150 people on average, it was relatively easy to determine who the wisest (elders) were and to entrust them with the big decisions for the tribe. A council of elders seems to have been a norm prior to agriculture taking off.

With so many people milling about today it becomes increasingly difficult to recognize who is wise enough to become a social trustee (Howard Gardener's work). Also, with so many people in such complex societies I seriously wonder if anyone is wise enough, or knowledgeable enough, to be Guardians of the world. Even if every head of every nation was as clever as we think Obama is, could they form anything like a council of elders?

I suspect that like every other evolving system we will have to go through a phase transition with creative destruction reducing our numbers and complexity to a point where sapient governance becomes feasible.

Dboy,

I did say "to name a few"!

I'd recommend you try not to think of Republicans (in the current form of the party) if possible. It just makes one crazy!

Thanks all.

George

מכשיר שמיעה

It only encourages people to spend unnecessarily on waste that end up in a garage or basement one day. Thanks for this one.

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